Eklund: Talks End. Gap shrinks. Getting Somewhere. Oh no, I meant gloom and doom.

first

Edit: I always find it funny when people say "first". I never saw the point in it so I had to try it myself. Now that I have I still don't see the point.

They are not getting anywhere.
Quit with the BS.

huh?

@Real_ESPNLeBrun: The 2 sides got closer today... Deal won't get done unless NHL is willing to step down on some contracting rights demands...

Eklund: Talks End. Gap shrinks. Getting Somewhere. Oh no, I meant gloom and doom.
- Eklund

NHLPA said no progress...again.

Fehr is royally (frank)ing the players. And the funny thing is the players (or most of them) don't even realize it.

Cancel the season...clap clap

Cancel the season...clap clap

Cancel the season...clap clap

I have said it too many times now, but we simply can't cover this like. Sporting event and we can't follow it in a linear way. This process is about agonizing long spells of nothing while you hope the other side bends...Asking a player what happened immediatley (sic) after a game is not the equivalent of asking someone involved in a negotiation immediately..
- Eklund

So no comments like, "Well, what can I say about Fehrsie? We know we have the best guy in the world back there, and it gives us a lot of confidence."

"We've just got to concentrate on taking it one meeting at a time, and focusing on doing the little things right."

"A concession in November is worth just as much as a concession in December. We need to grab some points now, so that we aren't chasing a new CBA at the end of the year."

So no comments like, "Well, what can I say about Fehrsie? We know we have the best guy in the world back there, and it gives us a lot of confidence."

"We've just got to concentrate on taking it one meeting at a time, and focusing on doing the little things right."

"A concession in November is worth just as much as a concession in December. We need to grab some points now, so that we aren't chasing a new CBA at the end of the year."
- Atomic Wedgie

How can you make jokes at a time like this?

Eklund: Talks End. Gap shrinks. Getting Somewhere. Oh no, I meant gloom and doom.
- Eklund

Pictures of an empty briefing room?

C'mon, Ek - we want the meter.

huh?

@Real_ESPNLeBrun: The 2 sides got closer today... Deal won't get done unless NHL is willing to step down on some contracting rights demands...
- Alexzanki

Well of course they got closer. The NHLPA walked right up the NHL's drive and gave up sizeable ground in the process.

In other news, I almost got to pet a tiger today. I just won't mention how he nearly took my arm off when I went to reach out to pat him on the head.

fear the fehr...

Eklund: Talks End. Gap shrinks. Getting Somewhere. Oh no, I meant gloom and doom.
- Eklund

and in other news today the stock market crashed but it didn't. It's going to be rainy yet sunny. The NHL season has been canceled and they will start playing hockey Jan 1st.

Eklund: Talks End. Gap shrinks. Getting Somewhere. Oh no, I meant gloom and doom.
- Eklund

So they will be cancelling more games and even if you're right we'll get maybe a max 48 game season.

So the players would be losing about 850 million just from this season. These guys just have absolutely no clue what they are doing. The players are letting themselves get (frank)ed over by Fehr and dont even realize it.

Piss on them.

I think the NHL should partner up with Indy Car since they are both about as dysfunctional as an entertainment organization can get.

I hope the NHL calls the PA's bluff and just cancels the entire season.

Here is the NHLPA's bargaining in simplified form:

"We want 5 apples, 3 oranges, 7 bananas, 10 grapes, and 8 pears"

"No?? Ok we will concede a little, we want 7 bananas, 8 pears, 5 apples, 10 grapes and 3 oranges"

"Geez, your aren't happy with that, how many more concessions do we have to make???? Ok this is our last one, we want 8 pears, 7 bananas, 3 oranges, 10 grapes, and 5 apples"

"Good God you still won't take that, what more can we give up! You need to meet us half way!!"

"Forget it, we are going to Russia, they will give us 2 grapefruit there"

It's not a sporting event.. It's not a checklist. It's (frank)ing stupid. Put that on your meter ehh?

Here is the NHLPA's bargaining in simplified form:

"We want 5 apples, 3 oranges, 7 bananas, 10 grapes, and 8 pears"

"No?? Ok we will concede a little, we want 7 bananas, 8 pears, 5 apples, 10 grapes and 3 oranges"

"Geez, your aren't happy with that, how many more concessions do we have to make???? Ok this is our last one, we want 8 pears, 7 bananas, 3 oranges, 10 grapes, and 5 apples"

"Good God you still won't take that, what more can we give up! You need to meet us half way!!"

"Forget it, we are going to Russia, they will give us 2 grapefruit there"
- Cochise

Well done.

I do like how playing for $7 million a year is a slap in the face, but playing in Switzerland for just enough money to cover your insurance is A-OK.

Well of course they got closer. The NHLPA walked right up the NHL's drive and gave up sizeable ground in the process.

In other news, I almost got to pet a tiger today. I just won't mention how he nearly took my arm off when I went to reach out to pat him on the head.
- Irish Blues

it would have been ok if you had a mediator with you

Here is the NHLPA's bargaining in simplified form:

"We want 5 apples, 3 oranges, 7 bananas, 10 grapes, and 8 pears"

"No?? Ok we will concede a little, we want 7 bananas, 8 pears, 5 apples, 10 grapes and 3 oranges"

"Geez, your aren't happy with that, how many more concessions do we have to make???? Ok this is our last one, we want 8 pears, 7 bananas, 3 oranges, 10 grapes, and 5 apples"

"Good God you still won't take that, what more can we give up! You need to meet us half way!!"

"Forget it, we are going to Russia, they will give us 2 grapefruit there"
- Cochise

Thats it exactly!

So they will be canelling more games and even if you're right we'll get maybe a max 48 game season.

So the players would be losing about 850 million just from this season. These guys just have absolutely no clue what they are doing. The players are letting themselves get (frank)ed over by Fehr and dont even realize it.

Piss on them.
- Iggysbff

I think the NHL should partner up with Indy Car since they are both about as dysfunctional as an entertainment organization can get.

I hope the NHL calls the PA's bluff and just cancels the entire season.
- Anjin

So do I.

Everyone mistrusts big business, and maybe for good reason sometimes, but ask those striking workers at Hostess how that worked out for them when they refused to make union concessions when their employer begged them to believe they were in financial peril. Now there are probably 28 thousand unemployed idiots fighting over the same 2000 Walmart and gift wrapping positions created by Christmas, and for 1/3 the wages...

Just cancel the damn season and stop playing games.... NHLPA and that clown Fehr had to know the NHL would walk from this.. What don't they get about we're not budging.

Just cancel the damn season and stop playing games.... NHLPA and that clown Fehr had to know the NHL would walk from this.. What don't they get about we're not budging.
- Popcorn Kid

Has anybody walked away?

So do I.

Everyone mistrusts big business, and maybe for good reason sometimes, but ask those striking workers at Hostess how that worked out for them when they refused to make union concessions when their employer begged them to believe they were in financial peril. Now there are probably 28 thousand unemployed idiots fighting over the same 2000 Walmart and gift wrapping positions created by Christmas, and for 1/3 the wages...
- Senators2112

Walmart giftwraps?

NHL was asking for 43% Revenue go to NHLPA at the biginning. Just to Save the Season, NHL ask 50% for 6 years when they felt full season can be saved. NHLPA rejected it. Don thinks it's going to get better than 50% Revenue when full season is not on the line?

it would have been ok if you had a mediator with you
- Canada Cup

I hear everything is made better with a mediator.